Right? There were several older magazine citations where all 4 called Sho 'mother', and it's only himself that didn't think so - he either called himself as 'father' or otherwise say there's no 'motherly' figure in the group. xD So it is freshing that Sho actually said Ohno is 'fatherly'! and Ohno keeps getting switched back and forth between old man or father for years now, I thought it was interesting J said he's 'motherly' for this TV Life. But overall verdict is pretty clear that Yama is still the parent figures (my bias talking probably xD).